Ian Bach

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Turkey’s battle plan could threaten northern Iraq

POSTED: 3:59 a.m. EDT, May 25, 2007 CNN

Story Highlights

• Calls in Turkey growing for attack on hard-line Kurdish separatist group PKK
• Six people killed, more than 100 injured in Tuesday’s bomb blast
• Turkish election to be held in July

[A note from Ian Bach – Before you read this understand that the Kurdish area is currently and has been the most secure and safe a religiously free area of Iraq for centuries. These brave people have fought for their rights to religious freedom. Radical Islamist want to eliminate the last standing truly religiously free country in their region. Also Iraq, Syria, and Turkey currently occupy areas of the original Kurdistan Nation. – We need to back these brave, ethical, tolerant people. In Kurdish Iraq Christians, Jews, Muslims (many forms/sects) all live together in freedom. – Ian Bach]

ANKARA, Turkey (CNN) — The war drums are getting louder in Turkey, and they can be heard next door in the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, and across the globe in Washington as well.

Many Turkish officials and citizens — enraged by Tuesday’s deadly bombing — want the Turkish military to hit back at the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, the hard-line Kurdish separatist group thought by many in the government and on the street to have staged the blast and other militant actions.

At least six people died and more than 100 were injured in the rush hour bombing at an Ankara shopping district. (Full story)

Senior Turkish officers have said that operations against the PKK would require troops to cross into the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, which many PKK militants — also long situated in southeastern Turkey — have chosen as their base.

The PKK denies involvement in the Ankara attack, and a U.S. State Department spokesman cautions that the investigation into the attack is “ongoing.”

However, the outrage in Turkey toward the PKK has been boiling over.

On Thursday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that if the military were to request a retaliation, the parliament, which is dominated by Erdogan’s AK party, would support it.

Turkey’s army chief, Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, said recently his troops are ready to attack what he calls Kurdish terrorist camps in northern Iraq. And retired Turkish Gen. Edip Baser told CNN he believes an operation could be just weeks away.

As late as two weeks ago, there were an estimated 150,000 Turkish soldiers on or near the Turkish-Iraq border, and the PKK has stepped up cross-border attacks into the Kurdish region of Turkey now that snows have melted in the border mountains.

Seven Turkish soldiers were killed in the volatile southeast this week.

Six Turkish soldiers died and 10 were wounded Thursday when a roadside bomb detonated near the town of Siirt, the Turkish military said. Another soldier died Wednesday in an accident near Van during a search operation.

July election

The tough talk in Ankara comes two months before a general election, in which Erdogan’s party, a movement with Islamist roots, faces a challenge from secularist parties. The vast majority of Turks are Muslims, but there has been a strict separation of mosque and state since the Turkish republic came into being in 1923. (Full story)

Supporters of Turkey’s secular heritage have been demonstrating for weeks against the plan by Erdogan’s governing party to vote one of its own members to the Turkish presidency.

Some analysts think that in the run-up to the election, Erdogan’s AK party will use a war against Kurdish separatists to rally public opinion and downplay its differences with the military.

Mustafa Aydin — professor of international relations at Ankara University and the National Security Academy — said the government would “try to use this to rally Turkish people around the government, around the people. They will most likely try to use nationalistic themes and terms during the propaganda.”

U.S. support

Nationalist feelings in Turkey are running high. Many Turks are disappointed with the lack of U.S. support for this long-time ally on the issue of operations against the PKK — and resent U.S. support for Kurdish autonomy in northern Iraq.

The United States is not deaf to the problem, but is caught between the competing interests of vital regional allies.

Two months ago, the special U.S. envoy working with Turkey on the threat of the PKK testified before a House committee. Retired Gen. Joseph Ralston said that Turkey is a “sovereign state with a responsibility to defend its people. Ultimately, the Turkish government will have to take the steps it thinks are necessary to protect its citizens.”

He pointed to efforts to close a refugee camp in northern Iraq that has become a refuge for fighters and to get a “cessation of hostilities.”

“Diplomatic progress on this issue has come grudgingly and with great effort, but there has been progress,” Ralston testified in March. He could not immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

State Department spokesman Tom Casey cautioned that the Turkish authorities have not come to any final conclusions about who is responsible for the blast and that their probe into the blast continues.

At the same time, he said, “we believe, as does the Iraqi government, that the PKK represents a real threat, and it’s a threat that needs to be dealt with.”

Ralston’s appointment as special envoy shows the importance of the issue, he said.

Casey said the “best way to deal” with the PKK is through “continued cooperation” between Turkey and Iraq, with the help of the United States.

“And we certainly don’t think unilateral military action from Turkey or anyplace else would solve anything,” he said.

Iraq backs Turkey

The Turkish Foreign Ministry said Thursday that the Iraqi government has expressed a willingness to work with Turkey on the issue of PKK terrorism.

Baser, a former special Turkish envoy on the PKK, has called the issue a “testing ground of Turkish-American relations.”

The PKK has backing, with many Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey supporting a dream of an independent state. One PKK sympathizer, Faik Kaplan, told CNN that inviting the PKK to lay down its arms would be a better way to go than Turkish troops crossing the border.

But Turkey says it won’t talk to PKK militants, and that stand resonates on the streets. Mustafa Ersoy, an Ankara shopkeeper, said: “The special message the flag carries is that the Turkish people are one body. And there is no power that can split the Turkish people into pieces.”

The PKK has been fighting for what it calls Kurdish rights since the early 1980s. More than 30,000 people have lost their lives in the violence. The last incursions made by Turkey into Iraq came in the early 1990s.

CNN’s Paula Hancocks, Phil Black, Talia Kayali, Joe Sterling and Elise Labott contributed to this report.


About Ian Bach

Independent Online Terrorist Hunter I teach people how to hunt down and shut down the Bad guys web sites. I also teach about the various countries and cultures. Like most cases it is a small group of bsd eggs that in this case call themselves Muslims but in actual fact they are more like how KKK call themselves ",True Christisians". But in both cases / groups they preach a perverted and twisted view a religion. In the case of ISIS, all Qaeda, al Nusra, and the rest of the terrorists who claim to be true Muslims most of these groups follow the Wahhabi teachings. They are almost all Sunni and their goal is global domination. Yet they must be very bad at math and history. Since most Muslims prefer a separation of church and state and also mist are against Shari's Law. Esp the twisted and overly exaggerated form of Sharia Law that the Wahhabi and other bad guys use. I have studied terrorism, insurgencies, and the best tried and proven methods that work to fight terrorism. My Blogs have many links and articles that can show you who are the best and most knowledgeable people in the fields or counterinsurgency and counter terrorism. When I find great practitioner's I always listen to them to find out who they learned from and who they respect and admire. Thus I am always learning new stuff from the best and most successful in their fields of knoeledge. I strive to be an open and ethical source of information, I have met many awesome, kind, caring, and loving wonderful people many who I am close friends with now from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Iran, and many from S.E. Asia which also has a high percent of their populations that are Muslim.We must always strive to be aware people are not any one particular religion via that's what they chose to be, instead most people are a particular religion because that's what their parents and/or county is. I was raised Catholic but because I became Interested in magic ,(illusion - smoke n mirrors) and science which lead me to study many religions, and I would call myself an atheist. Yet sometimes when I lose my keys ZI find myself praying "Hail Marys" and a few "Our Fathers" which most always aides me in finding my keys. My belief is that if I just frantically look around for my krys, good luck it takes me for ever. But by saying these prayers it is like s sort of meditation and my mind becomes more calm, which is why it helps my find my keys.

9 comments on “Turkey’s battle plan could threaten northern Iraq

  1. Ian Bach
    May 25, 2007

    Al Qaeda in Iraq has been pushing for more efforts to derail the progress and much more stable Kurdish regions in Iraq. But what the News tells us is PKK are attacking Turkish troops and civilians. But they never mention the Turkish attacks on the Kurdish people.

    There is a factor you must understand about this. The Kurdish region in northern Iraq was a much larger country at one time I think before 1800’s. The Russians attacked and committed genocide on the Turkish people and took control of areas of the original country “Kurdistan”. Iran, Syria, and Turkey all took part in this war and also claimed areas of the original Kurdistan. About 2 million or so Kurds live in each Iran, Turkey, and Syria. They live mostly in the major cities and capitals. Those who stayed in the original Kurdish areas continue to fight for their freedoms. Kurdistan was a nation that also had very moderate views on religions. Also they are thought to have ancient tribal/genetic ties to the Jews. This may be why the Kurds continue to pass on their beliefs of religious tolerance to each generation.

    I salute the Kurds who continue to fight against the terrorists and radical Islam. They are the best friends we have in the war of religious freedoms and therefore the war on terror.


  2. Ian Bach
    May 27, 2007

    The kurds are more religious and politicaly moderate and I would rather see the kurds take over turky!


  3. Ian Bach
    May 27, 2007

    I liked your point about Iran and others seeking a NEW Persia. Most don’t know or understand that problem and current goal or ralying cry of the terrorists. But I do Believe There is like you said enough different factions that they will never become “One Nation”. Most of all is what I see from moderate muslims and the youth of Iran and Iraq are ready to rebel against the cleric system. If there was only a way to speed it up. Heavy metal and rap are popular music now with the young people even in Syria and Bosnia. I see in 10 – 20 years for the people to actually embrace new styles of government. I just hope Iraq doesnt falll to the cleric system. One other thought on cleric run govs in middle east is if Iran got a Nuke weapon I think the military would gain more power than the clerics. Look at pakistans past.


  4. Ian Bach
    May 28, 2007

    yup very true and why i hope funding continues. It is amazing how much powerr clerics have in the muslim world. Do muslims see them as prophets?


  5. Ian Bach
    May 28, 2007

    yup bad combo i wish we would counter their propaganda soon.


  6. Ian Bach
    June 6, 2007

    FROM ANON – These folks KNOW what it takes to keep an area safe and secure. We have NO business in trying to make the rest of the world “PC”. Enough meddling. Let THEM do what works! Quite honestly.. if it’s an option.. let Turkey go in and take over the government in Iraq! hehe

    Friday May 25, 2007 – 08:36am (CDT


  7. Ian Bach
    June 6, 2007

    FROM STEVE – Interesting post. With the Iraqi strongman regime now deposed (and that was an inevitable and inexorable event), the power vacuum left in the region is, I fear, creating a level of adventurism in several areas as former empires look with envious eyes to their past glory and the potential to emerge as the most influential, if not powerful nation in the region. Whether the US stays or leaves Iraq, that country is going to be a breeding- and battleground for factionalism and terrorism for years to come. I am equally sure that Iran will continue to press its advantage, Syria its, and now Turkey may see an opportunity to expand its influence and regain some of the old Ottoman holdings, not to mention even a score with an old enemy or two.

    I am almost certain that the ancient tribal feuds, the factionalism in Islam, and its basic philosophy on other religions will prevent a Greater Syria, a New Persia, or a revived Ottoman from ever occuring. In the global scheme of things, disunity in this region benefits the west, but total destabilization is disaster… total unity is a worse disaster – that would allow the region to focus all of its energy elsewhere. In the middle, the Kurds… the shifting perceptions of friend and foe… who will be there for them tomorrow. Pawn to King’s Knight three… and the game goes on.

    Sunday May 27, 2007 – 10:34pm (CDT


  8. Ian Bach
    June 6, 2007

    FROM STEVE – True enough re: Pakistan, however there is still a strong, but factional cleric influence. Right now the military is in control of most of the country, but that hold is somewhat tenuous – Peshawar certainly leaves doubt as to who is in control. If the west changes position with regard to its support of Musharraf the days of military control are probably numbered. Then who has the nukes? There’s a scary prospect.

    Monday May 28, 2007 – 02:27am (CDT)


  9. Ian Bach
    June 6, 2007

    FROM STEVE – I’m sure some of the followers have elevated some of the clerics to the status of prophets, but as a whole, no. I suspect they view them in the same vein as western culture views its clerics… just a little closer to the source. The other thing to remember is that among the followers of Islam, the Imams and Ayatollahs are considered the most learned and wisest. That’s a powerful combination when it comes to influence.

    Monday May 28, 2007 – 12:04pm (CDT


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