Ian Bach

Viewing conflicts through the eye of Counterinsurgency COIN – Since 2007

For Dollars or for Jihad?

Dollars or Jihad?
Iraqis are getting paid between $100 and $200 (250,000 Iraqi dollars) each attack weather lobbing a grenade in the green zone (IZ), killing an Iraqi police officer, or Iraqi civilians.

Here is a portion of an insurgent being interogated:

Officer: were you doing these killings for Jihad?
Criminal: yes Sir.
Officer: for Jihad or for money?
Criminal: for both Sir.
Officer: how could Jihad be paid for!!
Criminal: (no answer)
Officer: you’re Muslim?
Criminal: yes
Officer: on ID card, huh?
Criminal: yes
Officer: do you pray or go to the mosque?
Criminal: no
Officer: do you drink?
Criminal: yes Sir.
Officer: so you don’t pray and you don’t go to the mosque and you drink and you kill for money and after all this you call your evil doings Jihad?!!! And you call your group the “Islamic Army”!!
Criminal: (no answer again)
Officer: so, tell me about those 9 policemen. Where were they coming from and where were they heading?
Criminal: coming from ‘Msayab and heading to Hilla
Officer: so they weren’t coming from Tel Aviv? (from the officer’s tone, obviously mocking the conspiracy theorists).
Criminal: no Sir, they were Iraqis.


About Ian Bach

Independent Online Terrorist Hunter I teach people how to hunt down and shut down the Bad guys web sites. I also teach about the various countries and cultures. Like most cases it is a small group of bsd eggs that in this case call themselves Muslims but in actual fact they are more like how KKK call themselves ",True Christisians". But in both cases / groups they preach a perverted and twisted view a religion. In the case of ISIS, all Qaeda, al Nusra, and the rest of the terrorists who claim to be true Muslims most of these groups follow the Wahhabi teachings. They are almost all Sunni and their goal is global domination. Yet they must be very bad at math and history. Since most Muslims prefer a separation of church and state and also mist are against Shari's Law. Esp the twisted and overly exaggerated form of Sharia Law that the Wahhabi and other bad guys use. I have studied terrorism, insurgencies, and the best tried and proven methods that work to fight terrorism. My Blogs have many links and articles that can show you who are the best and most knowledgeable people in the fields or counterinsurgency and counter terrorism. When I find great practitioner's I always listen to them to find out who they learned from and who they respect and admire. Thus I am always learning new stuff from the best and most successful in their fields of knoeledge. I strive to be an open and ethical source of information, I have met many awesome, kind, caring, and loving wonderful people many who I am close friends with now from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Iran, and many from S.E. Asia which also has a high percent of their populations that are Muslim.We must always strive to be aware people are not any one particular religion via that's what they chose to be, instead most people are a particular religion because that's what their parents and/or county is. I was raised Catholic but because I became Interested in magic ,(illusion - smoke n mirrors) and science which lead me to study many religions, and I would call myself an atheist. Yet sometimes when I lose my keys ZI find myself praying "Hail Marys" and a few "Our Fathers" which most always aides me in finding my keys. My belief is that if I just frantically look around for my krys, good luck it takes me for ever. But by saying these prayers it is like s sort of meditation and my mind becomes more calm, which is why it helps my find my keys.

5 comments on “For Dollars or for Jihad?

  1. Ian Bach
    April 12, 2007

    Interogation of insurgents is an Esential part of any counterinsurgency. As Trinquier says “you must treat the insurgent as a puppet, and not gold them responsible for attacks and killings. It is most important to get the information about who the insurgents upper level conatcts are and then try and turn their loyalties so that they can be inplanted back into the insurgency to be an informant.”

    Ok so its not word for word but it is how Trinquier describe counterinsurgency methods and I like his writtins best. Maybe because his are almost like a schemetic they are very techical and not as narrative as many other couterinsurgent writters. So for me it is easyier and faster to read for me and more focused.

    Trinquier does encourage tourture to get the info from the person if they won’t give it up fast enough. The reason being time is of a crucial nature as insurgents move around to make it hard to fidn them also they move a lot so they can keep in contact with their various subcells.

    Since the problems the US faced from international pressure torture has been abandoned. I am sure there is stil rare cases and that the Iraq interogators probably are more likely to use torture [for various reasons including anger and ethnic or political tensions]. But for every person torture you face the possiblity of creating many more insurgents from the tortured persons extended family. This is why the US has abandoned and forbidin torture in interogations.

    There is a link to Trinquier’s counterinsurgency manual summary and excepts in my Blogroll the links on the side of my Blog.


  2. Camera Man
    April 12, 2007

    The trouble is you are never going to be able to stop someone who is bent on doing something good, bad, or otherwise. Especially if it’s someone or someones in a place of power very much like our current administration. I agree that it’s only the thoughts of a few that cause this sort of thing and that for the most part people of every country on this planet have no desire for war. What needs to happen is acceptance of all people at all levels before any action towards peace can take place; in my opinion.


  3. Ian Bach
    April 13, 2007

    The terrorists get their money from various areas. One is selling of illegal Drugs especially in Afghanistan but even in Russia and US(legalize it, tax it, shut the funding off. – Just like Al Capone in 20s).

    Other major sources of funding are:
    1. Bank Scams (algeria islamic extremists started this scam)
    2. Printing and using conterfit money to buy weapons and undermine a coutrys economey ( this works for the terrorist by upseting the economy of a nation they get citizens to loose trust in the governments)
    3. Fake charities
    4. Islamic extremist Orgs and extremist Clerics
    5. Identity theft
    6. Others


  4. Ian Bach
    June 6, 2007

    From Anon –

    Who’s paying them? Stop the money flow.. and the madness might dwindle down substantially!

    Thursday April 12, 2007 – 12:36pm (CDT)


  5. Ian Bach
    April 4, 2015

    Reblogged this on How to Fight ISIS Online.


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